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Question # 0450 EWv4n3 Keywords: DDAVP, hyponatremia

I have CDI and have been on dDAVP for many years (over 30). I was on injections, then powder, and now nasal spray. I have been hospitalized for low sodium due to becoming over hydrated while taking DDAVP. Is this a common side effect?

Hyponatremia (low blood sodium) is very rare during dDAVP therapy of uncomplicated CDI, provided the patient drinks only when truly thirsty. However, hyponatremia is the rule when dDAVP is used to treat DI that is due to or associated with an abnormality in the thirst mechanism.

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Question # 0063 FAQ Keywords: DDAVP, nasal spray, tablets

I understand that there are dDAVP tablets available, but my doctor told me that they are not efficient.

* Are dDAVP tablets as effective as the nasal forms?

The dDAVP tablets are less well absorbed than the nasal spray but that problem is overcome simply by taking more of the drug. The tablets sometimes work less consistently than the nasal spray, but because they are also more convenient it would be worthwhile to try them.

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Question # 2942 Keywords: extreme heat, DDAVP, CDI side effects, water intoxication

I have CDI and take dDAVP nasal spray twice daily. I am a firefighter and I want to know how the lack of vasopressin affects the body in extreme heat/excessive sweating. Is it possible that I would have to take a spray after extreme exertion? I do not want to become water intoxicated.

It is unclear whether a lack of vasopressin, which is CDI, also results in increased loss of water via perspiration and/or respiration. Even if it does, however, the problem also should be corrected by treatment with dDAVP. Water intoxication is not a risk of dDAVP therapy if the thirst mechanism is normal and fluid intake is limited to times when thirst is present.

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Question # 2914 Keywords: hyponatremia

The patient had CDI diagnosed shortly after its start at age 60. He is now age 79. No known cause was diagnosed for his CDI and he currently takes desmopressin (dDAVP) nasal spray. The patient has low sodium levels and short-term loss of memory and urinates every half hour during an 8-hour sleep period. He is in excellent physical health otherwise and is a Masters track record holder. Please help since the patient is desperate and getting depressed. Released from hospital last week. Had a crisis due to low sodium, dehydration, and low electrolytes.

If the patient has a low serum sodium (hyponatremia), he should not be taking desmopressin (DDAVP) since he probably has some abnormality in fluid intake.

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Question # 2915 Keywords: hyponatremia, seizure, dosage, DDAVP

I was diagnosed with CDI shortly after symptoms started at age 27. I am now age 42 and take 0.015ml dDAVP by rhinal tube twice daily. I recently had a seizure. Since my seizure, I have been very careful not to take dDAVP unless I am very sure it has worn off.

* Why would, after 15 years of taking dDAVP, the dosage need to go down?

* Would this be why I feel dizzy sometime before I take my next dose?

* Is this the beginning of dehydration?

Hyponatremia (low serum sodium) in a patient taking DDAVP is always due to excessive intake of water. The reason for the excessive intake varies from patient to patient. Sometimes it is due to an abnormality in thirst, but often it has another cause such as the highly publicized and widespread misconception that a high fluid intake is healthy. Identifying the cause and appropriately treating for the excessive intake may be as simple as a thorough history or as complex as a series of tests of the posterior pituitary and the thirst mechanism. The latter is best undertaken by physicians with particular experience/expertise in this area.

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Question # 2932 Keywords: memory loss, weight gain, DDAVP, dosage, hypothyroidism, adrenal insufficiency, diet

My husband had a prolactinoma (pituitary tumor) removed and developed CDI at age 37. Since his surgery he has not been the same man. He is now 39 and his memory is not what it once was and his ability to retain new information is not good. He weighs about 320 lbs (he did lose 30 lbs since his surgery). Could his memory, ability to retain new information, and inability to loose weight be due to the fact that he might not have the correct dose of dDVAP?

It is very unlikely that poor memory or inability to lose weight is due to CDI or to the wrong dose of dDAVP. If these problems developed after the surgical removal of a pituitary tumor, they are probably due to some other effect of the surgery. Depending on how large the tumor was and the approach used to remove it, these complications include damage to the appetite center in the hypothalamus, hypothyroidism, and the treatment for adrenal insufficiency if it is present. The first problem can be treated only by rigorous dieting, but the last two problems could be corrected easily by adjusting hormone replacement therapy.

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Question # 2933 Keywords: GFR, glomecular filtration rate, familial CDI, inherited CDI, complications

* What is the effect on GFR (glomecular filtration rate) in familial CDI?

* Is it reduced with desmopressin (dDAVP)?

Familial CDI, which seems to be the type that runs in your family, has no appreciable effect on GFR unless lack of treatment leads to permanent bladder distention, incomplete drainage, infections, and chronic pyelonephritis. This complication is uncommon, however, even in patients who are not treated for their CDI. Desmopressin has no direct effect on GFR that I am aware of. It may increase it indirectly by increasing total body water but this effect is probably quite small.

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Question # 2937 Keywords: water deprivation test, diagnostic tests, growth hormone, polydipsia, polyuria, diabetes mellitus, sugar diabetes, children with CDI

My son is now 16 months old and drinks over a gallon of water a day. He takes 0.025 ml dDAVP twice a day. He has had two water deprivations tests and numerous blood test done. All negative. Our pediatric endocrinologist thinks it might be behavioral but the dDAVP seems to help. He is growth hormone deficient with a small pituitary. Our doctor wants to stop dDAVP and just restrict his water, but I don’t think that is best. What should we do next?

* Can a child have CDI but be negative on all the tests?

Drinking a gallon of liquids per day is obviously highly abnormal for a 16-month-old child. It indicates that he has some form of severe polydipsia and polyuria. Any further conclusion would require more specific information about which tests were performed under what conditions and if “negative” means “normal.” If it does and diabetes mellitus (sugar diabetes) has been excluded by measurements of blood or urine glucose, it is very likely that the child has some type of DI. In this case, the fluid deprivation tests would be appropriate. If urine osmolality was measured and was found to rise above 300, this result is not necessarily “negative” in the sense that it excludes CDI or NDI or indicates primary polydipsia (see guidelines for interpreting fluid deprivation tests at www.diabetesinsipidus.org/water_deprivation_protocol.htm) because it is also consistent with a partial defect in vasopressin secretion or action. The child’s age, response to dDAVP, and associated defect in growth hormone secretion also suggests CDI. Other tests may be needed to establish the diagnosis. I suggest that these issues be discussed with the child’s pediatrician who may wish to consult the DiF web site (www.diabetesinsipidus.org).

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Question # 2944 Keywords: water intoxication, hypontremia

I am now age 56 and was diagnosed with CDI after a head trauma at age 48. Within the last 9 months I have been hospitalized for water intoxication with sodium levels very low (at 107 -115).

* Why do I have hyponatremia?

Hyponatremia (low serum sodium) in someone taking dDAVP is always due to excessive intake of water. The reason for the excessive intake varies from patient to patient. Sometimes it is due to an abnormality in thirst but often it has another cause such as the highly publicized and widespread misconception that a high fluid intake is healthy. Identifying the cause and appropriately treating the excessive intake may be as simple as a thorough history or as complex as a series of tests of the posterior pituitary and the thirst mechanism. The latter is best undertaken by physicians with particular experience/expertise in this area.

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Question # 2950 Keywords: hypochondroplasia, dwarfism, skeletal dysplasia

* Is there any association known between CDI and hypochondroplasia, a form of dwarfism?

CDI has not been associated with hypochondroplasia or any other form of skeletal dysplasia. However, it is not inconceivable, since defects in other CNS functions have been observed and the growth or function of the posterior pituitary could also be affected if the sella turcica were malformed like some other parts of the skeleton.

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Question # 2953 Keywords: inherited CDI, familial CDI, diagnosis

This question is concerning my daughter who is now 32 years old but was tested when she was approximately 11 years old. We were told she did not have CDI, but was copying me because she drank so much liquid and still does. I have been diagnosed with familial CDI. Should she be tested again and would the MRI rather than deprivation give a better diagnosis? She is up during the night frequently and thus doesn’t get her proper rest.

Rarely does imitation truly occur in a patient and I am always skeptical when I hear this diagnosis. How was a diagnosis made? The only true way to make a diagnosis of DI and to determine what type (CDI or NDI) it is would be to use the water deprivation test; there is a protocol for conducting this test on DiF’s web site at www.diabetesinsipidus.org/water_deprivation_protocol.htm.

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Question # 0093 FAQ Keywords: DDAVP, injections, diabetes mellitus, sugar diabetes

I take dDAVP by injection. It now works sporadically and cannot be relied upon.

* What would cause dDAVP injections to stop working efficiently all of the time?

If the dDAVP is given by injection, a problem with technique is the most likely cause of a variable effect. Review the injection technique with your doctor to be sure you are always getting the medication beneath the skin and not in it. Also, be sure that the medication has been stored properly and is not old or outdated. Another cause of an inconstant effect is variations in the amount of solutes such as salt or glucose in the urine. These variations can result from changes in diet or a separate problem, such as diabetes mellitus (sugar diabetes). It is also conceivable that a person has developed antibodies to the dDAVP, but that is extremely rare.

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Question # 0064 FAQ Keywords: dehydration, DDAVP, breakthrough, CDI side effects

When I start dehydrating, and after 2 hours of treatment (dDAVP), I feel a heaviness in the chest. Why?

I am not sure why you experience heavy pressures in your chest before and after your doses of dDAVP. It may be due to rapid shifts in body water, particularly if you are taking the drug in such a way as to allow the effects of one dose to wear off before taking the next dose. If so, you should talk with your doctor about the possibility of taking the dDAVP on a more regular schedule that prevents intermittent breakthrough. This should not produce excessive retention of water if your thirst mechanism is normal and you remember to drink only when you are truly thirsty.

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Question # 0065 FAQ Keywords: desmopressin, DDAVP

* Is there a difference between the generic drug desmopressin and the brand name dDAVP?

As far as we know, there is no chemical difference in the generic and brand name, but there could be a difference in the vehicle (solution in which it is dissolved) that affects stability or the absorption of the drug. If you are having problems with variable effectiveness, you might try the brand name or switch to a different route of administration.

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Question # 0066 FAQ Keywords: treatment, CDI medications, DDAVP, CDI side effects, pregnancy

I take chlorpropamide and chlorathiazide for CDI. Why are more people not using these medications? DDAVP does not appear to work very well for some people. These are much more inexpensive and they do have a few side effects.

* What are the long-term effects of chlorpropamide and chlorathiazide?

* Are there other medications than dDAVP that can be used for CDI?

Many patients with CDI take dDAVP instead of chlorpropamide because their doctors do not know how effective the latter can be. Chlorpropamide can lower blood sugar. Usually this does not have any consequences except for a slight increase in appetite, sometimes weight gain, and occasionally irritability. However, the low blood sugar can be more severe if the patient goes on a strict diet or engages in heavy physical exercise. The drug should not be taken during pregnancy since we do not know if it affects the fetus. As far as we know, the chlorpropamide has no significant long term side effects and it is a good deal less expensive than dDAVP. I would recommend it to patients who do not respond well or cannot afford dDAVP.

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Question # 0067 FAQ Keywords: Desmopressin, DDAVP, breakthrough

* Can I take desmopressin when I breakthrough (feel the symptoms of DI) or should I stick to regular times?

Do you mean that your DI sometimes stops even when you do not take dDAVP? That is very unusual for CDI and, if present, it would suggest that you are a smoker or have a second problem such as postural hypotension or adrenal insufficiency, any one of which can mask DI. However, if you mean by your question whether you should take dDAVP in doses sufficient to prevent breakthrough of your DI, the answer is “yes” unless you have an associated abnormality in your thirst mechanism or developed water intoxication for some other reason during treatment.

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Question # 0068 FAQ Keywords: DDAVP, symptoms, water intoxication, DDAVP side effects

* Is there any other medication other than dDAVP to control symptoms, without as many side effects as dDAVP?

DDAVP has few side effects in patients with uncomplicated CDI. It may produce water intoxication if the thirst mechanism is abnormal or if the patient does not remember to restrict his or her drinking to times when he or she is truly thirsty.

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Question # 0073 FAQ Keywords: DDAVP, dosage

* Is it ever necessary to increase dDAVP doses?

The dose of dDAVP required to control CDI should not change over time, unless the patient is a growing child, in which case it may increase gradually in proportion to size. If the dose of dDAVP required to control CDI does increase significantly, it is usually because the efficiency of absorption has decreased (for example, when a patient using the nasal spray develops hay fever or a cold). Occasionally, the dose requirements increase because the patient develops antibodies to dDAVP, but this is very rare. Incidentally, the dose of dDAVP should be determined by its effects on urine output, NOT by its effect on plasma sodium. The latter is determined primarily by the rate of fluid intake, which can and should be regulated separately. In most cases, the thirst mechanism will adequately regulate fluid intake without any interference from care givers. Occasionally, however, in patients who are very young, unconscious, or lack a normal thirst mechanism, it is necessary to regulate fluid intake for them. This can be difficult to do and requires the help of an expert.

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Question # 0074 FAQ Keywords: DDAVP

* How does dDAVP work in my body? Does it go to my pituitary first or my kidneys?

DDAVP is absorbed into the bloodstream and taken directly to the kidneys where it acts to concentrate the urine and, thereby, reduce urine output.

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Question # 0054 FAQ, 0277 EWv2n4 Keywords: DDAVP, prognosis

* Can CDI worsen over time, requiring more dDAVP?

The dose of dDAVP required to control CDI should not change over time, unless the patient is a growing child, in which case it may increase gradually in proportion to size. If the dose of dDAVP required to control CDI does increase significantly, it is usually because the efficiency of absorption has decreased (for example, when a patient using the nasal spray develops hay fever or a cold). Occasionally, the dose requirements increase because the patient develops antibodies to dDAVP, but this is very rare. Incidentally, the dose of dDAVP should be determined by its effects on urine output NOT by its effect on plasma sodium. The latter is determined primarily by the rate of fluid intake, which can and should be regulated separately. In most cases, the thirst mechanism will adequately regulate fluid intake without any interference from care givers. Occasionally, however, in patients who are very young, unconscious, or lack a normal thirst mechanism, it is necessary to regulate fluid intake for them. This can be difficult to do and requires the help of an expert.

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Question # 0048 FAQ Keywords: DDAVP, nasal spray, neuropathy, CDI complications

I have CDI and I take dDAVP nasal spray. My doctor now suspects I have neuropathy and has placed me on neuronin.

* Can the CDI and the neuropathy be related?

CDI does not cause neuropathy. However, a few of the diseases that can cause CDI could, in theory, also cause neuropathy.

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Question # 0004 FAQ Keywords: DDAVP, CDI complications

* Can CDI worsen over time, requiring more dDAVP?

The dose of dDAVP required to control CDI should not change over time, unless the patient is a growing.

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Question # 2968 Keywords: vasopressin

I have just gotten a lab result of no detectable vasopressin in my blood. Although I urinate frequently there is little volume. I have the urge, but little urine. I also have been diagnosed with spongy medullary kidney disorder and have red blood cells (microscopic) in my urine for the past 15 years. In addition I am lactating (no pregnancy), with no increase in prolactin levels. My question is in the absence of typical DI symptoms, what else should I be looking for and how soon should I seek an endocrinologist.

I assume the blood value for vasopressin was obtained because of your urinary frequency, but associated with “little volume.” All forms of DI, by definition, have large urine volumes (at least 3 or 4 liters a day for an adult) with the urine being dilute. You have not provided any evidence that you have DI, and therefore, there is no need for vasopressin levels to be obtained or followed up by an endocrinologist, except perhaps for your problem of lactation. I would suggest that you ask your nephrologist about your urinary frequency. After that you might have to see a urologist.

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Question # 2984 Keywords: damaged thirst mechanism, water intoxication

I am 45 and have had CDI since age 30. I take 0.05ml dDAVP by rhinal tube twice daily. I am struggling with finding the right balance. I know not to drink unless I am thirsty, but I don’t seem to have a reliable thirst mechanism. Sometimes I get thirsty, but signs of dehydration usually precede the feeling of thirst. When I drink water without being thirsty, I sometimes develop water intoxication, which hurts too! My body weight fluctuates 2% to 5% nearly every day lately.

* How can I tell when I need to drink?

If the thirst mechanism is damaged, it cannot be used as a reliable guide to fluid intake. This kind of damage is very unusual in ordinary CDI, but is the rule when the hypothalamic osmoreceptor rather than the pituitary itself is damaged. This is much less common than ordinary CDI and is characterized by elevations in serum sodium (hypernatremia) without thirst. If this defect is present, fluid intake must be regulated by other methods, such as constant monitoring of body weight or serum sodium (by equipment now available for use in the home).

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Question # 2985 Keywords: growth hormone

I am 40 years old and have had CDI since birth. I take dDAVP nasal spray twice daily. I am considering taking human growth hormone shots on a daily basis.

* Would taking the growth hormone give me problems with my CDI?

Growth hormone should not affect the treatment of CDI.

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Question # 2986 Keywords: damaged thirst mechanism, dosage, adipsic DI

My son, who is 12 years old, had a surgery (hypothalamic harmatoma) recently. He developed CDI immediately after the operation. My son has a damaged thirst mechanism. He was hospitalized several weeks ago with a high sodium level of 181 and potassium reading of 2.6. He was treated and the sodium and potassium levels were normalized. He was put on dDVAP 2.5microgram twice a day; his fluid intake is 1.5 litres. But now he starts pouring after 4 to 8 hours. We increased the dDVAP to 5 microgram twice a day, but he still pours. Today, we give him one extra dose. What shall we do? In terms of fluid, we try to top up to the urine output. How can we adjust such that he only needs two doses per day?

Was the patient thirsty when he had a serum sodium of 181? If he was mentally alert and not thirsty, he has a severe problem called adipsic DI. Patients like these must be monitored continually with intakes matched to output, including urine volume, estimated losses in perspiration, and frequent checks of blood for sodium levels. With the passage of time, the patient and the caregiver may notice some personality changes when the serum sodium is increased or decreased, thus making it somewhat easier to adjust the fluid intake to the output. The amount of dDAVP nasal spray or pills to keep the patient from urinating excessively and thus having to drink excessively has to be worked out between the patient and his physician. Remember that there are no side effects from dDAVP itself. Side effects are from taking too much or too little fluids in relation to the urine output and other fluid losses. Too much fluid intake in relation to fluid losses causes decreased serum sodium level and too little intake in relation to fluid losses causes hypernatremia, as this patient seems to have. Why was the serum potassium low? My guess is that it is from concomitant therapy with diuretics. This is an inappropriate use of diuretics, which may be helpful and the only effective treatment in some patients with NDI, but it is not indicated for the treatment of CDI.

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Question # 2987 Keywords: idiopathic CDI, dosage, traveling, activity and DI

I am age 41 and have had idiopathic CDI since age 21. I take desmopressin (dDAVP) 0.05 ml by rhinal tube twice daily. I snow ski. I live in Missouri, which is basically near sea level. When I snow ski at elevations of 10,000 to 12,000 feet above sea level, my dose of dDAVP can be reduced by over a half and regular urination, etc., is maintained. I learned this by trial and error and an ER doctor I am friends with told me I may want to see if reducing my dose would help with what I thought was altitude sickness. I don’t drink more water when I’m at higher altitudes. I do ski hard and therefore drink a fair amount when I stop for lunch, no more than usual though. Besides that there are no other real outlets for liquid on the mountain and I do not carry a water bottle/camel pack. I have also noticed that the duration of a regular dose of my medicine is shorter (maybe 9 to 11 hours as opposed to 12) if I am physically active (strenuous activity) at regular altitude, which would make you think that I would need even more when skiing. If I maintain the dose used at sea level, I get severe nausea and headaches at high altitudes. Now that I reduce my dose, my first day of skiing is great.

* Have you heard of anyone else that requires less dDAVP when at altitude?

This observation is a very interesting one. It is well known that people tend to get dehydrated upon acute exposure to high altitude. For that reason, one would think that a HIGHER dose of dDAVP might help the problem by retaining water in the body; yet, you find that a LOWER dose gives relief -- and I’m sure that your observation is correct -- at least as it concerns yourself. One possible explanation is that you are aware of the dehydration problem at high altitude; therefore, you deliberately drink more than your thirst demands; you can’t excrete the extra water you drink because of your normal dose of dDAVP; and goes into hyponatremia (also known as mild to moderate water intoxication). Continue to reduce your dose of dDAVP when your ski or is at high altitude for some other reason. If it works for you, you should keep it up. Even though you don’t purposely drink more while skiing, if you continued your regular dosage of dDAVP, you would/might go into slight water intoxication. This condition, as you probably know, is manifested as hyponatremia (low sodium concentration in the blood or serum). One might be able to nail down my suspicion by your not reducing the dosage of dDAVP and having your physician friend or someone else take a blood sample for sodium analysis. But I don’t really advocate that, since it would make you feel lousy. Better, just keep up your current practice.

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Question # 2988 Keywords: headaches, diffuse neurological abnormalities

My husband was diagnosed with CDI 7 years ago at age 30, and has taken desmopressin nasal spray, two sprays twice per day ever since. He has had several MRIs. There is fairly symmetric diffuse abnormal increased signal seen in the deep white matter in the parietal and occipital lobes on the FLAIR and T2 weighted series. In addition, there are small focal areas of increased signal seen in the corpus callosum and a focal area of signal abnormality with enhancement in the deep left parietal white matter. Abnormal increased signal is also seen in the superior thalamus, the cerebellar peduncles and posterior brain stem, the latter most marked in the pons and lower mid brain. There is no mass effect associated. The ventricles and subarahnoid spaces are normal in size. There is mucosal thickening in the frontal and ethmoid sinuses, most pronounced in the left frontal sinus and there appears to be cortical breach of the posterior wall of the sinus with a small amount of abnormal soft tissue extending into the cranial vault adjacent to the left frontal lobe. Then 18 months later he began to get migraines, dizziness, and loss of balance. Now 8 months later, he is at the stage where he cannot walk without the aid of a walker and his speech is very slurred and slow. He is now also getting tremors in his lower body. The neurologists can make no diagnosis. Do you know any body else like this. To have two rare things happening to him seems like too much of coincidence.

Diffuse neurological abnormalities are very rare in patients with CDI. The only two instances that I recall from my own experience were in patients with diffuse brain damage due either to eosinophilic granuloma or anoxic encephalopthy. Multiple sclerosis can also produce diffuse, fluctuating neurological abnormalities and DI but the DI is always of the dipsogenic type (abnormal thirst). It also responds to dDAVP but, unlike CDI, it will result in water intoxication unless the treatment is given so as to allow complete escape at least once a day.

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Question # 2994 Keywords: autosomal dominant, genetic testing

* Where can a DNA test for X-linked or autosomal dominant form of CDI can be made in Europe?

In Europe, Dr. Soren Rittig in Aarhus Denmark may be able to sequence the AVP-NPII gene in patients with the autosomal dominant form of familial CDI. The gene responsible for the x-linked recessive form of familial CDI cannot be tested because it has not been identified. All that can be done at present is to perform linkage studies in the kindred in hopes of further localizing and identifying the gene.

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Question # 2995 Keywords: frequent urination, DDAVP

I am a 43-year-old male and I have had CDI since age 38. I take dDAVP nasal spray at bed time but still get up 5 to 6 times per night to urinate. DDAVP is only effective in reducing urine volume, but frequency of urination is not improved. Please help me. I have not had a proper nights sleep in years.

* How can I reduce urinary frequency, especially at night so I can get a proper night’s sleep?

It sounds like the patient has bladder neck spasm or perhaps an enlarged prostate gland. There are medications and behavioral techniques to treat the former and medications for the latter. Although it is possible that the patient has CDI as well as one of these other problems, the original diagnosis of CDI should be reconsidered.

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Question # 2999 Keywords: orthopedic surgery, hyponatremia

* Are suffers of CDI at any greater risk of hyponatremia after orthopedic surgery?

Only if they are overhydrated with oral or IV fluids. It would be a good idea to have an endocrinologist or nephrologist involved to see to it that proper hydration is maintained.

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Question # 3000 Keywords: Diabenese

I am age 20 and my CDI was found 8 years ago due to a pituitary tumor and excessive drinking and urinating. It is about 8 years that I cannot manage the water balance, sometimes I’m dehydrated and sometimes swell. I was treated for years by Minirin and it was a real torture and very hard to balance. Today I am treated with a medication called Diabinese and feel better but still not great. I understand that this medication is normally used to treat diabetes mellitus.

* Does Diabinese work for CDI as well?

Diabenese is often as effective in severe CDI as in partial CDI. The way it works is unclear. Dipsogenic DI is due to an abnormality in thirst, which causes excessive intake of fluids that suppresses release of antidiuretic hormone.

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Question # 3007a Keywords: weight gain,

Last month I had a pituitary adenoma successfully removed. After surgery I developed CDI and am currently taking two desmopressin tablets per day. My specialist mentioned that CDI is mostly a transient condition. How will I know if my condition has cleared up? I have also put on a lot of weight in the last few weeks. Could this be a side effect from the desmopressin or could it be from other tablets (I am also on 20 mg replacement hydrocortisone per day)? My diet is extremely healthy and I am not overeating.

* Could my weight gain be a result of taking DDAVP?

Most, but not all, people with CDI experience weight gain. That is one of the most common complaints. Ask your physician what you should experience to make sure that the CDI has gone away.

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Question # 3007b Keywords: dosage, DDAVP, cravings

One day each week I have to stay off the desmopressin (DDAVP) tablets. When I get thirsty during this one day each week I get cravings for fizzy minerals. For example, last week I drank almost 2 litres of Fanta orange. Normally I would never drink fizzy drinks. Is this something that I should be worried about? I was told to not take desmopressin one day every week to let fluid that has built up in the body over the week to be released.

Patients with uncomplicated CDI and a normal thirst mechanism do not need to interrupt dDAVP treatment to release excess fluid if they always remember to limit their fluid intake to the amounts needed to satisfy thirst. That is because the thirst mechanism regulates intake to prevent overhydration (excess water). Interruption of treatment is necessary only if the thirst mechanism is damaged and not working properly or if the patients drinks excessive amounts for some other reason such as the belief, now widespread, that a high fluid intake improves health.

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Question # 3012 Keywords: cold water, maintain body temperature

I am a 34-year-old female. My CDI was diagnosed at age 31. In the past few years I have found it increasingly difficult to keep warm without lots of socks, sweaters, and blankets!

* Does CDI affect body temperature regulation?

There is no evidence that CDI itself effects body temperature. However, some of the conditions that can be associated with CDI may have this effect. One is the ingestion of large volumes of cold water or other beverages, which can cause chilling. Another is damage to the part of the pituitary that regulates the thyroid. This can cause hypothyroidism, which can also result in a slight lowering of body temperature and “cold intolerance”. A third is damage to the thermoregulatory mechanism, which is located in the hypothalamus near the cells that make vasopressin.

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Question # 3015 Keywords: Factor V disorder, warfarin

I am 30 years old and have CDI. I have been told that it was caused by a blood clot in my pituitary gland. I got the blood clot because I also have Factor V Lieden (Homozygus). I take warfarin and dDAVP every day. The pharmacist told me that dDAVP is also used to treat bleeding disorders in hemophiliacs. Is this true? If so, doesn’t that mean I’m taking two drugs that are doing the opposite? Is there something else I can take instead of dDAVP? Since I need to be on both for the rest of my life, I would like an alternative to taking 13 mg of warfarin a day.

DDAVP is used in relatively high doses to treat partial forms of hemophilia. The doses used to treat DI are much lower and probably do not affect clotting in any way although this question has not been completely investigated. Other drugs, most notably chlorpropamide, can be used to treat CDI, but they are sometimes less effective and may have other side effects. Therefore, I would be inclined to stick with the dDAVP, although the issue should be discussed with the physicians who are treating the Factor V disorder.

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Question # 0275 EWv2n4, 0071 FAQ Keywords: DDAVP, tablets, nasal spray

* Does dDAVP work equally well between with the nasal spray or the tablet?

DDAVP tablet and dDAVP nasal spray work equally well overall, although certain patients do better on one than the other, probably because of individual differences in the efficiency of absorptions from the nose and gastrointestinal tract.

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Question # 0276 EWv2n4, 0072 FAQ, 0729 EWv7n2 Keywords: tablets, DDAVP

* Is the dDAVP tablet better if given on an empty stomach ?

Food may affect the absorption of dDAVP in the gastrointestinal tract, so it is probably better to take the tablet on an empty stomach.

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Question # 0278 EWv2n4, 0069 FAQ Keywords: DDAVP, dosage

* What is the dosage of dDAVP?

The dose of dDAVP required to control CDI does vary with the size of the patient. However, it cannot be specified exactly in terms of body weight because other factors, such as differences in absorption or metabolism, also exert a major influence. Therefore, the optimum dose varies quite widely from patient to patient and must be determined by trial and error. The dose also depends on the route of administration. When given by injection, it is usually necessary to give between 1 microgram to 2 micrograms once or twice a day. By nasal spray, the necessary dose can range from 5 micrograms to 20 micrograms twice or three times a day. By tablet, the usual dose is 100 micrograms to 200 micrograms two to three times a day.

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Question # 0279 EWv2n4, 0070 FAQ, 0727 EWv7n2 Keywords: DDAVP, dipsogenic D, dosage, infants with CDI

* Is dDAVP better given in the morning or evening?

In most patients with uncomplicated CDI, dDAVP should be given as often and in as large a dose as necessary to completely normalize the rate of urine output. This is usually achieved most conveniently by giving at least two doses, one in the morning and one at bedtime. If necessary, a third dose can be given in the late afternoon. It is not necessary to allow breakthrough from the antidiuresis except in very young infants whose diet is still largely liquid or in the uncommon patient who has a defect in the thirst mechanism in addition to CDI. Patients with dipsogenic DI should be given dDAVP only in small doses at bedtime to reduce the need to get up and urinate at night. If they take dDAVP in large doses or during the day, they will develop water intoxication.

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Question # 0300 EWv3n1 Keywords: DDAVP, surgery

* How does dDAVP work in my body?

* Does it go to my pituitary first or my kidneys?

* Is there a need for extra fluid during and/or after surgery?

The dDAVP is absorbed into the bloodstream and taken directly to the kidneys where it acts to concentrate the urine and thereby reduce urine output. There is no need for extra fluid during or after the surgery if dDAVP is administered to prevent excessive water loss by the kidneys. In fact, extra fluid would be hazardous in this situation since the dDAVP would prevent normal excretion of the excess water. If dDAVP is not given during and after the surgery, extra fluid should be given to compensate for the loss. The amount that is required depends on the rate of urine output. It can be determined by keeping track of urine output and also the plasma sodium concentration.

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Question # 0730 EWv7n2, 0301 EWv3n1, 0075 FAQ Keywords: ice water, DDAVP, CDI side effects

* Why does drinking ice water cause chilling when the antidiuretic effect of dDAVP treatment wears off, but not when the medicine is working?

The difference is probably due to the amount of ice water consumed in the two situations. It is several times larger when the medication is not working because urine output and thirst are also increased several fold. At those times, the amount of ice water consumed may be so great as to lower body temperature 1 or 2 degrees. It is possible that this effect is aggravated by malfunction of the mechanism that regulates body temperature (the thermoregulatory center) because it is located in the brain near the cells that make vasopressin and may be damaged by the same pathologic process (for example, neurosarcoid). However, this type of “collateral” injury is unusual in CDI and, if it were present, body temperature should fluctuate up and down even without exposure to heat or cold. The chilling produced by drinking large amounts of ice water is uncomfortable, but is not hazardous unless body temperature falls more than 5 degrees Fahrenheit. If that is happening, there is a risk of heart malfunction and the patient should consult a physician about changing the treatment of the CDI.

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Question # 0728 EWv7n2 Keywords: nasal spray, tablet, DDAVP

* Does dDAVP work equally well with the nasal spray and the tablet?

DDAVP tablet and dDAVP nasal spray work equally well overall, although certain patients do better on one than the other, probably because of individual differences in the efficiency of absorption from the nose and gastrointestinal tract.

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Question # 0750 EWv7n3 Keywords: cure, prognosis, CDI side effects, DDAVP, treatment

* Is there ongoing research for a cure for CDI?

* What are the long-term side effects of taking dDAVP?

Research into a cure for CDI is being conducted, but there are no promising leads at present and it is unlikely that a cure will be available anytime soon. Fortunately, a good treatment (dDAVP) is available to control the disorder. A better treatment for NDI is also being actively investigated and, although the leads there are a little more promising, it will likely be some time before it is routinely available.

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Question # 0761 EWv7n3 Keywords: DDAVP, CDI side effects, children with CDI

My seven-year-old son developed CDI as a result of injuries sustained in a car accident two years ago.

* What are the long-term side effects of dDAVP?

* Will the dDAVP affect schoolwork in the future?

DDAVP has no known long-term effects and should not affect schoolwork in the future.

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Question # 0047 FAQ Keywords: treatment, CDI medications, DDAVP

* What is the treatment for CDI?

CDI is treated with dDAVP, a synthetic (manmade) form of the natural antidiuretic hormone, vasopressin. If another disease causes the DI it is treated separately. The method of treatment depends on what that disease is. It can be surgery, radiation, or drugs.

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Question # 0760 EWv7n3 Keywords: pain, CDI complications, side effects, DDAVP, breakthrough

My 15-year-old son complains of lower back (in the area of the kidneys) pain when his dose of dDAVP is wearing off. He says after he takes his spray the cramping feeling gradually subsides. What might cause this? Is there any reason to call the doctor before our scheduled visit?

* Why does my son have lower back (kidney) discomfort when dDAVP wears off?

The symptoms you describe may be caused by a sudden increase in urine output that distends the ureters. However, you should discuss it with his physician to be sure that further investigations for another cause are not warranted.

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Question # 0653 EWv6n3 Keywords: CDI medications, CDI side effects, alternative medications, DDAVP, desmopressin, CDI complications

I have CDI. I don’t want to be on any medication for the rest of my life, if I can help it, especially considering the cost of this medication, even at generic prices.

* Is it possible for a person to wean themselves off of desmopressin (dDAVP) without severe adverse effects?

* Are there any other treatments for CDI or any means of at least maintaining electrolyte balance and not getting the “shaky swears” and “fuzzy thinking” reactions?

Unless you also have an abnormality in your thirst mechanism, the only consequences of stopping your dDAVP treatment would be a return of the frequent urination, constant thirst, and increased fluid intake. Your electrolyte and water balance should remain within normal limits provided you drink enough to satisfy your thirst. If they do not, you probably have an associated abnormality in your thirst mechanism and will need to be treated differently than a patient with uncomplicated CDI. The other symptoms that you describe may or may not result from mild dehydration that results from stopping the dDAVP. The only other way to relieve them when you stop dDAVP is to drink enough fluid.

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Question # 0654 EWv6n3 Keywords: DDAVP, CDI side effects, breakthrough

I had a brain tumor that damaged my pituitary gland, and I have CDI. I drink a lot of liquids and go to the bathroom often. Currently, I’m being treated with dDAVP. It works most of the time but then, at least once a month, it doesn’t work that well.

* Why does my dDAVP not always work properly?

If your dDAVP treatment works poorly sometimes, the reason is probably poor absorption of the drug. If you are taking the dDAVP by mouth, you may be able to improve consistency by taking the tablet on an empty stomach or by increasing the size or frequency of the dose. If you are taking the nasal spray, try blowing your nose before each dose. If that does not help, consult your doctor about increasing the size or frequency of the dosing.

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Question # 0553 EWv5n3 Keywords: dose timing, DDAVP, desmopressin

When I start dehydrating, and after 2 hours of treatment, I feel heaviness in my chest.

* Why does dDAVP cause a heaviness in my chest?

* Is there a difference in the generic desmopressin and the brand name dDAVP?

I am not sure why you experience heavy pressures in your chest before and after your doses of dDAVP. If may be due to rapid shifts in body water, particularly if you are taking the drug in such a way as to allow the effects of one dose to wear off before taking the next dose. If so, you should talk with your doctor about the possibility of taking the dDAVP on a more regular schedule that prevents intermittent escape. This should not produce excessive retention of water if your thirst mechanism is normal and you remember to drink only when you are truly thirsty. As far as we know, there is no chemical difference in the genetic and brand name dDAVP, but there could be a difference in the vehicle (solution in which it is dissolved) that affects stability or absorption of the drug. If you are having problems with variable effectiveness, you might try the brand name or switch to a different route of administration.

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Question # 0554 EWv5n3 Keywords: DDAVP, tablets, nasal spray

* Are dDAVP tablets less expensive than the nasal spray?

* Are dDAVP tablets as effective as the nasal spray?

At effective doses, dDAVP tablets are not less expensive than dDAVP nasal spray. They are more convenient and often as effective as the spray. However, in some patients, their effects are more erratic owing to variations in absorption from the gut. This variability sometimes can be prevented or reduced by taking the tablets on an empty stomach, but other times it is necessary to go back to the nasal spray.

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Question # 0650 EWv6n3 Keywords: DDAVP, nasal spray, DDAVP side effects, loss of smell

I have CDI and have been taking the dDAVP nasal spray for 11 years.

* Recently, I lost my sense of smell and taste. Could the medication be to blame for this?

I am not aware that dDAVP has damaged the sense of smell or taste in anyone. However, relatively few patients have been using the nasal spray as long as you have, so we cannot rule out the possibility that chronic, long-term exposure to the drug or vehicle has this effect in some people. If you have not already done so, I would suggest that you consult an ear, nose, and throat specialist to see if you have any scarring or inflammation of your nasal mucosa or sinuses that might explain your loss of smell and taste (much of what we call “taste” is actually dependent on the ability to detect subtle odors). If you do, it would not necessarily be attributable to dDAVP, but it would at least be a link or explanation and might lead to some effective treatment. The other thing you might do is try changing to the oral dDAVP to see if your sense of smell and taste improves.

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Question # 0628 EWv6n2 Keywords: increase, DDAVP, vasopressin

I have CDI. The amount of vasopressin used each month has begun to increase dramatically

* Should I be alarmed that I am requiring higher doses of vasopressin than before?

An increase in the requirement for vasopressin (or dDAVP) is not necessarily a cause for alarm unless it gets way above the normal range. Usually, it only indicates that the drug has gone bad or is not being given or absorbed optimally. This can occur for a variety of reasons, and you should discuss this with your doctor or specialist. If that does not solve the problem and you are really taking vasopressin (and not the analogue dDAVP) in abnormally high doses, it is also possible that you have developed antibodies. If so, you may want to switch to dDAVP or chlorpropamide since they are usually not affected by the antibodies.

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Question # 0783 EWv7n4 Keywords: DDAVP, tablets, Cortef

I have an autoimmune disease that has caused the loss of all pituitary functions. I’m taking dDAVP tablets, but am having problems concentrating urine. I’ve had a couple of breakthroughs.

* Is there any reason dDAVP tablets may not be working?

* Is there any reason adding 20mgs of cortef a day would diminish their effectiveness?

* Do the breakthroughs suggest that I need more dDAVP or should switch to the nasal spray?

Cortef in the dose will interfere with dDAVP. In some people, dDAVP is not well absorbed from the gastrointestinal tract. Try taking it on an empty stomach. If that does not provide good control with reasonable doses (i.e., up to 0.2 mg three times a day), switch to the nasal spray.

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Question # 0780 EWv7n4 Keywords: dosage, DDAVP

Our 7-year-old son was diagnosed with a craniopharyngioma and had surgery. His CDI is a result of this. His thirst mechanism is intact. He takes 0.35-0.4 mg at night and that seems to hold him through the night, but regardless of whether his morning dose is 0.3 mg, 0.35 mg, or 0.4 mg, his DI seems to begin breaking through at around 4 p.m. each day. Should we use a lower dose at 8 a.m. and give an extra dose (0.1 mg?) around 4 p.m.? And then his usual dose at bedtime?

* What would you suggest for a dosing regimen for his dDAVP?

You could either increase his morning dose or add a third dose around 4 p.m. If his thirst mechanism is working properly and he has not other stimulus to drink, it would be safe to experiment by increasing the size or frequency of the doses to determine how much is needed to completely control his urine output.

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Question # 0776 EWv7n4 Keywords: DDAVP, desmopressin, DDAVP side effects, hyponatremia

After taking desmopressin, I’ve noticed that my daughter’s speech becomes slurred, her gait is slightly unsteady, and she complains that her tongue also feels heavy. She’s been on this medication for four years, although these complaints are new. In the beginning she had hyperneutremia (high blood sodium levels), but now she has hyponeutremia (low blood sodium level). Her doctors say that they have no answers. My daughter’s cognitive function is good, although she is forgetful at times.

The hyponatremia may be responsible for your daughter’s symptoms. It is caused by the combination of dDAVP treatment and excessive fluid intake. From the information provided, I cannot tell why she is drinking water so much. I recommend that she stop the dDAVP and undergo further evaluation or education about CDI before proceeding.

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Question # 0775 EWv7n4 Keywords: water intoxication, DDAVP, CDI side effects

I was recently diagnosed with CDI. Approximately five hours following taking my first dose of dDAVP nasal spray, I became light headed - I almost felt drunk. A further 24 hours later and the feeling had not completely subsided. I have still drunk a fair amount of fluids (probably due to habit). Could this be causing the problem?

Your symptoms may or may not be due to water intoxication induced by the dDAVP. The best way to tell is to measure your serum sodium. If it is low, you are developing water intoxication and should stop the dDAVP and undergo repeat evaluation as to the type of DI you have.

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Question # 0325 EWv3n2, 0076 FAQ Keywords: DDAVP, nasal spray

I currently use the nasal spray, two puffs per day. Does dDAVP completely stop urine output until it wears off or given the correct dosage, does it allow the body to regulate urine output.

* Does dDAVP cause urine production to stop for a time then restart or reduce urine output without stopping it?

DDAVP reduces urine output by increasing urine concentration, an effect virtually identical to the natural hormone, vasopressin. This antidiuretic effect is not ‘all or none’. Its magnitude is directly proportional to the amount of dDAVP in the blood. At low blood levels, urine concentration (also called osmolality) is low and urine output is high. Conversely, at high blood levels, urine concentration is high and urine output is low. Even at very high blood levels, however, dDAVP does not stop urine output completely because there is a natural limit to the amount of urine concentration that it can produce. All it can do is reduce urine output to a minimum, which in humans is around 0.3 to 0.5 milliliters per minute or about 2 cups a day. However, even though dDAVP controls the rate of urine output, it does not regulate the amount of water in the body the way that the natural hormone does because the amount of dDAVP in the blood is not regulated by body water the way that the natural hormone is. It is determined solely by other factors such as the size and timing of the dose and the efficiency of absorption from the nose or gastrointestinal tract (if given by pill) and as a practical matter it is impossible to control these dosing factors with sufficient accuracy to regulate urine output in accordance with the body’s need for water. Fortunately, dDAVP does not need to do this because the normal thirst mechanism compensates by altering the rate of water intake. That is why we recommend those patients with uncomplicated CDI (i.e., a normal thirst mechanism) should take dDAVP in doses sufficient to maintain a fixed, uninterrupted level of antidiuresis and let their thirst mechanism do the rest.

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Question # 0326 EWv3n2, 0077 FAQ Keywords: DDAVP, DDAVP side effects, swelling, water retention

* Does the body store dDAVP and can it accumulate in the body?

* How long does dDAVP last in the body?

The body does not store dDAVP, but it can accumulate if it is given faster than the body disposes of it. The half-life varies markedly from person to person but averages around 1 to 2 hours. The antidiuretic effect of the usual intranasal dose also lasts for variable periods of time not only because of variations in half-life but also in absorption of the drug. On average, however, it is about 8 to 12 hours, or 4 to 6 half lives, because the initial blood levels achieved are greater than necessary to produce antidiuresis. For the reasons outlined above, taking the drug more frequently does not lead to accumulation of water if thirst and water intake are regulated normally. Water retention occurs only if the thirst mechanism does not work normally or if the patient drinks excessively for other reasons (e.g., habit, nervousness, etc.)

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Question # 0327 EWv3n2, 0078 FAQ Keywords: alcohol, diet, DDAVP

What are the effects of alcohol on dDAVP, the pituitary gland, and DI symptoms. The pharmacist tells me not to have alcohol when using the nasal spray, but can’t tell me exactly why.

* Apart from the obvious effects of exacerbating dehydration, does alcohol negate the dDAVP?

As far as we know, alcohol does not negate the effect of dDAVP. It may slightly increase the rate of disposal but this effect is minimal. In normal people, ethanol produces an increase in urine output by inhibiting secretion of the natural hormone, vasopressin. This effect obviously would not occur with dDAVP.

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Question # 0328 EWv3n2, 0079 FAQ Keywords: DDAVP, stress

I notice that if I am having a busy or tense day, the dDAVP seems to wear off quickly.

* What are the effects of stress on dDAVP absorption and the pituitary gland itself?

As far as we know, stress does not affect dDAVP absorption, although it might increase the metabolism or disposition of the drug.

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Question # 0330 EWv3n2, 0080 FAQ Keywords: dosage, DDAVP, nasal spray

My timing between doses of dDAVP varies. For the nasal spray it can vary from 6 hours to 18 hours.

* Does my pituitary gland sometimes produce a small amount of the hormone, even if I have CDI?

In some patients with CDI, the pituitary is able to produce small amounts of the hormone as, for example, when they smoke or become dehydrated. However, the variability in the duration of action of the dDAVP in you is probably due mainly to variability in the efficiency of adsorption. Colds, sinusitis, or even a little hay fever markedly impair the absorption of the drug from the nasal mucosa and result in much shorter durations of action.

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Question # 0226a EWv2n2 Keywords: diet, caffeine

* Is drinking caffeinated sodas and coffee dangerous to people with CDI or increase the risks of dehydrating?

Although caffeine does cause a mild diuresis (increased urine output) in normal people, it seems to have little or no noticeable effect in individuals taking dDAVP for CDI. Therefore, it does not increase the risk of dehydration and need not be avoided.

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Question # 0226b EWv2n2 Keywords: DDAVP, breakthrough, water intoxication

* Should CDI patients wait for symptoms to appear before taking dDAVP?

In the usual patient with uncomplicated CDI, there is no need or benefit to waiting for symptoms to appear before taking the next dose of dDAVP. It is preferable to take the drug in doses or with a frequency that prevents breakthrough because this regimen is not only more convenient, it minimizes fluctuations in hydration, which, in the long run, may have deleterious effects. If taking dDAVP this way results in water intoxication (typified by symptoms of headache, nausea, and dizziness and a fall in blood sodium to abnormally low levels), it is usually because the patient’s thirst mechanism is abnormal. This abnormality can occur in association with CDI or as an isolated defect that causes symptoms and signs closely resembling the other forms of DI. If water intoxication does develop with dDAVP, special methods of diagnosis and treatment can be used to resolve the situation.

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Question # 0429a EWv4n2, 0085 FAQ Keywords: DDAVP, DDAVP side effects

* Is there any known bad effect of dDAVP after very long use?

Using dDAVP for a long time has not produced any bad effects that we know about.

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Question # 0429b EWv4n2, 0085 FAQ Keywords: hyponatremia, DDAVP, CDI side effects, dipsogenic DI, diagnosis, children with CDI

* Is it possible to have hyponatremia (low blood sodium) with a very small dose of dDAVP, even if I don’t if have dipsogenic DI?

* How is dipsogenic DI diagnosed?

When a patient with CDI stops taking dDAVP (or some other pharmaceutical drug), it is normal for polyuria (increased urination) to occur 2 to 3 hours before the thirst and polydipsia (increased drinking) set in. The more important question is why you have started to develop hyponatremia on dDAVP. It indicates that you are drinking excessively either because you have abnormal thirst or for some other reason. If the problem persists, you may want to switch from dDAVP to chlorpropamide, since the latter is less likely to induce hyponatremia. It is not clear why your dose requirements for dDAVP have decreased. It could be because you have developed hypothyroidism or hypoadrenalism. Therefore, you should have your plasma cordsol and thyroid hormone measured. If your MRI is really completely normal (i.e., the posterior pituitary bright spot is present), you do not have CDI and must have dipsogenic DI. The latter would be consistent with developing hyponatremia on dDAVP. Therefore, it is very important to determine if the posterior pituitary bright spot was seen. The other way to determine if you have dipsogenic or CDI is to measure plasma vasopressin during a fluid deprivation/hypertonic saline infusion test.

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Question # 0432 EWv4n2, 0081 FAQ Keywords: DDAVP, CDI side effects, stomach pains, children with CDI

My son is 2 and a half years old. He has had CDI for about a year. Currently, he has severe stomach pains and nausea, which seem to get worse when he takes his dDAVP tablets. He has missed about half of the school days this semester due to symptoms of fever, headache, nausea, and fatigue. At first, they diagnosed it as strep, but he still had symptoms after the strep was eliminated. Then, an ear, nose, and throat (ENT) specialist diagnosed a sinus infection. Now, they think that the antibiotics may be causing the stomach pains, so they suggested that he stay off of them for 48 hours. That has not eliminated the stomach pains. We have three doctors working on him now: his pediatrician; the ENT specialist and an endocrinologist who is treating him for the CDI and growth deficiency (for which he is taking 1.4 mg of Genotropin per day). The doctors do not seem to be coordinating very well, and CDI may be so rare that they do not know whether it is causing his symptoms, whether something else is causing them, or whether it is the dDAVP. Do you have any suggestions?

To my knowledge, dDAVP tablets do not cause gastrointestinal clamping, or stomach pains. The possibility that they do could be evaluated by switching, at least temporarily, to the intranasal form.

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Question # 0082 FAQ Keywords: Langerhans Cell Histiocytosis, dosage, DDAVP, breakthrough, children with CDI

Our son, age 3 years, 9 months, has CDI caused by Langerhans Cell Histiocytosis. He has had CDI for one year. His dose of dDAVP is: 0.1 ml a.m., 0.025 afternoon, 0.1 ml p.m., or 0.225 daily. What is normal? This is delivered by rhinal tube. Without the 0.025 dose in the afternoon he breaks through (escapes) by early evening. We are considering changing to the nasal spray, which would only deliver a 0.1 ml dose per spray. This would still necessitate using the rhinal tube for the 0.025 dose in the afternoon. Does this make sense? Could we eliminate the 0.025 in the afternoon owing to the more efficient delivery system of the nasal spray. Our pediatric endocrinologist seems confused about the relative dosages of rhinal tube versus nasal spray delivery systems, thinking that the nasal spray delivers 10 times the rhinal tube. We learned the dosages are identical. We also miss the afternoon dosage once in a while and end up bumping up the evening dosage and skipping the afternoon dose. When this happens, he breaks through early in the morning.

* Should we allow him to breakthrough every day or adjust the dDAVP to just reach threshold?

Regarding the correct dose of dDAVP for your son: he should be given enough that his CDI does not breakthrough. If you switch from the rhinal to the nasal spray, this probably could be accomplished by giving him 1 spray (10 mcg) every 8 hours or 2 sprays in the morning and one in the evening at bedtime. Apart from the unnecessary expense, you do not need to worry about giving him too much. Even higher doses of the drug should not result in water intoxication, provided his thirst mechanism is normal and he learns to drink only when he is thirsty. Both of these conditions are probably being met if all measurements of his serum sodium have been normal. If you go to a higher dose of dDAVP, continue to check his serum sodium weekly for a month and, if they are all normal, repeat them only if he develops symptoms of water intoxication.

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Question # 0057 FAQ, 0430 EWv4n2 Keywords: water retention, weight gain, DDAVP

My mother was recently diagnosed with CDI. She’s now on dDAVP, which works perfectly except for the fact that she has gained a lot of weight. She stopped taking the medication for one day (and drank gallons of water instead) and she lost 13 pounds overnight. Is this normal?

* Is there anything you can do to stop the weight gain and the feeling of bloatedness?

A sudden gain of 13 pounds after starting dDAVP is almost certainly due to excessive water retention and indicates fluid intake is excessive, due either to an abnormality in the thirst mechanism or a lack of understanding about the need to avoid drinking unless thirst is present. She should ask her physician to check her plasma sodium concentration while she is on dDAVP. If it is low, she should learn to drink only when she is thirsty. If that does not eliminate the hyponatremia, she should stop treatment and be re-evaluated to determine if she has CDI or dipsogenic DI.

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 Last Updated January 2007