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Question # 0675a EWv6n2 Keywords: excessive urination, frequent urination, polyuria

* What is considered “excessive” urination?

An adult who urinates more than 50 ml/kg body weight per 2 hours is generally considered to have a higher than normal output. Loosely translated, 50 ml/kg is about 3.5 quarts per day for a 150 Lb adult.

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Question # 0675b EWv6n2 Keywords: excessive thirst

* What is considered “excessive” thirst?

An adult who drinks more than 4 quarts (1 gallon) or approximately 12 glasses (144 oz) of beverages per day would have a higher than normal intake.

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Question # 0251 EWv2n3 Keywords: water intoxication

* What is water intoxication?

Water intoxication is a term used to describe a constellation of symptoms and laboratory abnormalities that result from an accumulation of too much water in the body. Depending on how much and how fast water accumulates, the symptoms can be mild (headache, fatigue, dizziness, loss of appetite) or severe (confusion, coma, seizures). Since these symptoms also occur in other disorders, the diagnosis of water intoxication requires a laboratory test showing that the plasma sodium concentration has been “diluted” be the normal range. Water intoxication occurs whenever water is put into the body (by drinking or intravenous infusion) faster than the kidneys can excrete it (usually because of kidney failure or the act of vasopressin, the antidiuretic hormone). This can occur in a variety of situations. It is common, for example, in patients with dipsogenic DI (a form of DI due to an abnormality in the thirst mechanism) who are treated with dDAVP in the mistaken belief that they have CDI (a form of CDI due to a deficiency of the antidiuretic hormone, vasopressin). The treatment of water intoxication varies depending on the cause and the severity but almost always includes cessation of fluid intake until plasma sodium concentration returns to normal.

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Question # 0427 EWv4n2 Keywords: multiple sclerosis, hyponatremia, dipsogenic DI

My 14-year-old son developed CDI, possibly from multiple sclerosis (MS). In the past, he has been in a coma for several days after having sodium imbalance seizures. He is taking dDAVP for the DI and is on Tegretol for the seizures. His doctors have tried to raise his Tegretol dose several times because his EEG is abnormal and because of daily migraine headaches. Is anyone else dealing with this problem? Is there any way to know if this situation will continue to deteriorate?

By “sodium imbalance” seizures, I assume you mean a low serum sodium concentration. This abnormality is usually referred to as hyponatremia. When it develops in a patient taking dDAVP for CDI, it usually indicates that the DI is due to abnormal thirst, an entity we call dipsogenic DI. Dipsogenic DI occurs in some patents with multiple sclerosis and is often confused with CDI, which is due to a deficiency of the antidiuretic hormone vasopressin and not to a thirst abnormality (although occasionally the two disorders occur together). These two types of DI-dipsogenic and central-can be distinguished with certainty only by measuring antidiuretic hormone during a suitable stimulus such as a fluid deprivation test (although sometimes an MRI of the brain is also helpful). If your son has “pure” dipsogenic DI due to MS, it may or may not improve spontaneously with time or may show ups and downs. In any event, he should not take dDAVP in the usual way to control the DI because it will invariably produce hyponatremia and increase the risk of seizures. If he has combined dipsogenic and CDI, treatments other than dDAVP should be used since they usually provide better control with less hyponatremia. The first and most important issue to settle is which type(s) of DI your son has.

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Question # 0428 EWv4n2 Keywords: mental disability, polydispsia, dipsogenic DI

I have been visiting a young man who has a mental disability and lives in a community residential unit (CRU). I was concerned initially by his insatiable thirst and was told that he was on very restricted fluids because if he drinks too much he will have a dystonic reaction! I have learned that he is on Serenace and Cogentin, which account for the dystonic reaction and in part to the thirst because of dry mouth. However a review appointment with his doctor produced a letter noting he has a disorder that could be called obsessive polydipsia, i.e., an obsession with drinking, a recognized disorder. He was admitted to a major hospital following a convulsion. The diagnosis at that time was “hyponatremic seizure, i.e., a seizure brought on because of low sodium in the blood. This is/was a direct result of excessive drinking, which caused sodium loss in the urine. This condition can be fatal. I was horrified that my well-meaning inquiries might be fatal if the reduction in fluids is lifted. I have not heard of diabetes insipidus before and wonder if you can give me some advice on how best to approach the situation again. None of this was recorded on his file at the CRU. I particularly need to know whether limits should be put on excessive drinking. Is there an upper limit to what he can drink? Does it cause incontinence?

Psychogenic or compulsive polydipsia is a common and well-recognized form of primary polysipsia [also known as dipsogenic DI]. There is no treatment for this form of DI except restricting fluid intake, and that is usually not possible because of patient non-compliance. Unfortunately, I have little to recommend for this patient except that he should not be given dDAVP or any other medication that reduces urine output, since it will produce water intoxication like the episode he has already had.

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Question # 0037 FAQ Keywords: bone loss, osteoporosis

I found an article on “Impairment of Bone Status in Patients with Central Diabetes Insipidus in the JOURNAL OF CLINICAL ENDOCRINOLOGY & METABOLISM, July 1998. This article stated that patients with CDI had significant bone impairment compared to healthy subjects and bone status analysis is mandatory. Have you done any studies or found this to be a problem and should I, as a CDI patient, be worried about bone status impairment?

I have not studied bone density in patients with CDI. Therefore, I can neither confirm nor dispute the report to which you refer. However, I can tell you that none of the patients we have treated (now greater than 150 people) has a history of bone fractures or other signs/symptoms of functionally significant osteoporosis. Therefore, even if the report is correct, the decrease in bone density probably does not significantly increase the risk of symptomatic bone disease in patients with DI. Osteoporosis is relatively common with increasing age in the general population. Therefore, it would be prudent for everyone, including DI patients, to follow the recommended preventive measures and have bone density checked if any of the established risk factors are present.

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Question # 0039 FAQ Keywords: weight gain, diet, obesity, hypernatremia, children with CDI

My daughter was diagnosed with a brain tumor located in the hypothalamic area. It was removed the next day since it was life threatening. The operation left her with short-term memory loss, CDI, and problems affecting every hormone in her body. She has gained 80 pounds plus since the removal of the tumor. Can you suggest a diet for her to aid in her loosing weight, especially since exercise affects her menstrual cycle and she still drinks up to 2 liters a day. Her sodium level stays about 154, which is high, but not life threatening. Her doctor does not seem concerned about her weight, but she gains 5 to 10 pounds every three months, no matter what I have her eat.

It sounds as though the hypothalamic cells that regulate appetite and thirst have also been damaged. The only way to control her weight is to put her on a standard, low calorie, weight-reducing diet of the same type used in other forms of obesity. Your doctor or a registered nutritionist should be able to instruct you in the specifics. Her hypernatremia (increased serum sodium) indicates she is not drinking enough water to prevent dehydration because her thirst mechanism is defective. The only way to deal with this problem is to be sure that her dose of dDAVP is always sufficient to prevent breakthrough of her CDI and then teach her how to regulate her fluid intake in accordance with changes in hydration as evidenced by changes in weight, and, when necessary, measurements of her serum sodium. This is a complicated process that requires continual monitoring, support, and advice from a medical doctor on site.

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Question # 0040 FAQ Keywords: overactive bladder, incontinence

I would like to know if, even when medicated, an overactive bladder and wetting accidents are part of the normal course for CDI?

If inadequately treated, CDI may result in incontinence. However, it is more likely due to a separate problem. If the incontinence persists even when the dose of dDAVP is sufficient to normalize urine output, a urologist should be consulted.

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Question # 0042a FAQ Keywords: infantile genitals, prognosis, CDI complications

I have read somewhere that CDI causes infantile growth of the genitals. Is this true?

CDI does not cause infantile genitals. However, some of the diseases that cause CDI in childhood can interfere with normal sexual development.

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Question # 0042b FAQ Keywords: prognosis, CDI complications

* Is there anything known about a stronger than normal aging process with CDI?

As far as we know, CDI does not accelerate the aging process.

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Question # 0043 FAQ Keywords: diagnosis, diagnostic tests, MRI

I have had two MRIs, both showing no tumor.

* Do I ever need to have an MRI again?

MRI of the brain is useful for determining the type of DI and may also reveal the cause if the DI is either central or dipsogenic DI. If the initial MRI does not show the cause of CDI or dipsogenic DI, a repeat MRI in 6 to 12 months is a good idea. After that, additional repeats rarely provide any more information of any clinical value.

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Question # 0044 FAQ Keywords: orthopedic injuries, Cushings syndrome

I have had a large number of orthopedic injuries that my surgeon thinks has something to do with CDI, since all of these problems happened within the last 2 or 3 years, which correlates with my pituitary gland’s stopping production of ADH. I was tested for Cushings a year ago - cortizol level was normal. Should I be retested?

The only connection between your DI and multiple orthopedic problems that I can imagine is if they both are the result of some kind of athletic or other trauma that also involves your head. Unless you have some of the other stigmata of Cushings syndrome, I doubt that additional measurements of coritsol would be worthwhile.

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Question # 0045 FAQ Keywords: causes, idiopathic CDI

* What are the causes of CDI?

There are many different causes for each of the four main types of DI. CDI is usually idiopathic (no known cause), but can also result from a variety of known disorders such as tumors, head trauma, and granulomas that involve the pituitary and hypothalamus.

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Question # 0046 FAQ Keywords: CDI side effects, CDI complications

* How does CDI affect other body systems?

CDI does not affect any body system except urine production by the kidney. When other systems are affected, it is due to the underlying disease that also caused the CDI.

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Question # 0049 FAQ, 0454 EWv4n3 Keywords: cure, DDAVP, DDAVP side effects, CDI complications

* Will the pituitary gland (damaged in a car accident) ever recover at all?

* Is it true that taking medications to replace hormones will cause other health conditions?

* With so much intake of water daily, will this damage the bladder and kidneys?

Once the posterior pituitary is damaged or destroyed, it will never recover. It will always be necessary to take dDAVP or some other antidiuretic drug to control urine output. Damage to one of the hormones from the anterior pituitary sometimes recovers after a while, but it depends on how severe the damage is. Taking replacement hormones will not cause other diseases, provided the doses are correct. If CDI is not controlled with medication, the high urine output occasionally causes the bladder to enlarge, but rarely damages the kidney.

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Question # 0050 FAQ , 0457 EWv4n3Keywords: CDI medications, prognosis, alternative therapy, cure

I have CDI. I want to find a better way of life. I wanted a natural supplement to replace the dDAVP. Is there such a cure? Can I live without taking this medication? I tried not to take dDAVP for a while. I wanted to see if I was able to live without it. Sadly to say, I became extremely ill. I could not control any of my functions. Every 15 minutes I would consume incredible amounts of water (gallons) and used the bathroom just as often. By the end of the week, I had lost 10 pounds and was dehydrated. I did not sleep. I then went back on the dDAVP.

There are other drugs to treat DI, but to my knowledge there are no natural cures.

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Question # 0051 FAQ, 0458 EWv4n3 Keywords: prognosis, thirst mechanism, children with CDI

I have a 7-year-old daughter who was diagnosed with CDI one month after she turned 4. Everything was normal until she got an ear infection and was dehydrated; the doctors taking care of her said at first it was a separation of the two hemispheres of the brain. Only one doctor noticed that what we said about the way she acted and played did not fit. He did more tests and then told us she had CDI and no thirst mechanism. What effects will this have on her as she grows up? They told us she would not grow normally and she is!

The combination of a thirst abnormality with CDI is particularly difficult to manage. If she really has both abnormalities, the treatment plan is more involved and should be designed and monitored by a specialist.

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Question # 0052 FAQ , 04559 EWv4n3Keywords: medical alert cards, traveling

I live in France and have to work in Sweden for a month. At this time, my CDI is not very stable. When I have a problem in France, I know that many doctors don’t know anything about CDI or desmopressin (dDAVP). I have to explain what it is and what to do in case of dehydration. But in Sweden, they speak English, and I cannot explain my problem in English. What can I do?

I would suggest that you carry a card in your wallet indicating in English that you have CDI. If you become dehydrated and cannot communicate with the Swedish doctors, they will probably know what to do when they see the card. If not, they will at least know who to contact for instructions.

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Question # 0053 FAQ, 0461 EWv4n3 Keywords: hypersalivation, night terrors, dehydration, CDI side effects, children with CDI

* Is there any connection between CDI and hypersalivation?

* What could cause extreme salivation?

* Is there any proven connection between CDI and night terrors?

My son has both. The night terrors seem to come on with the onset of fever, viral flu, and/or medications - that could disrupt his normal biochemical or endocrine balance.

To my knowledge, there is no proven connection between DI and hypersalivation. However, they could be related, because dry mouth is common with dehydrated people with DI (when vasopressin is increased), and there is some evidence that vasopressin reduces water loss from other tissues besides the kidneys. Thus a deficiency of vasopressin could result in increased formation of saliva as well as perspiration. I know of no association between DI and night terrors.

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Question # 0058 FAQ Keywords: Langerhans Cell Histiocytosis, breakthrough, dosage, children with CDI

Our son, age 3 years, 9 months, has CDI caused by Langerhans Cell Histiocytosis. He has had CDI for one year. How often should the sodium level needs to be checked? He becomes thirsty and does not have diminished thirst responses in this regard. He drinks about the same as his older brother. His urine also becomes clear towards the end of his dosages.

Apart from the unnecessary expense, you do not need to worry about giving him too much dDVAP. Even higher doses of the drug should not result in water intoxication provided his thirst mechanism is normal and he learns to drink only when he is thirsty. Both of these conditions are probably being met if all measurements of his serum sodium have been normal. If you go to a higher dose of dDAVP, I would continue to check his serum sodium weekly for a month and, if they are all normal, repeat them only if he develops symptoms of water intoxication.

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Question # 0059 FAQ Keywords: breakthrough, headaches

I am 18-years old and have CDI. Every once in a while I get headaches in the morning because I have basically taken on too much fluids. It really bothers me. When I have a headache like this should I just go ahead and take my dDAVP pill or wait till the headache goes away. Also, I was told that I will be able to tell if I have taken on too much fluids if I weigh more in the morning. Is this the best way to tell?

The best way and probably the only way to tell for certain if you have taken on too much fluid is to measure your plasma sodium. This needs to be done while you are having symptoms and before the effect of the last dose of dDAVP has worn off. If these measurements confirm that you are taking on too much fluid, it is important to determine why. If you are drinking excessive amounts for reasons other than thirst (e.g., habit), all you need to do is ‘break’ this habit and remember to drink only when your are truly thirsty. If this does not eliminate the problem, you may have a disorder in your thirst mechanism.

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Question # 0060 FAQ Keywords: growth retardation, children with CDI, Langerhans Cell Histiocytosis

Our son, age 3 years, 9 months, has CDI caused by Langerhans Cell Histiocytosis. He did not grow while he was under chemotherapy for the histiocytosis and has just recently started to grow rapidly and still continuing at that pace. We had him tested for growth hormone and everything was normal, but he was not growing, now he is. Has this anything to do with CDI? Also, how much catch-up growth can we expect?

CDI results in growth retardation only if it severe and untreated or if it is associated with deficiencies of growth hormone or other anterior pituitary hormones. Since neither condition is present in your son, I would expect him to show “catch up” growth now that he has finished his chemotherapy. Eventually, he will probably reach the same size as if he did not have DI.

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Question # 0062 FAQ, 0083 FAQ Keywords: weight gain, DDAVP side effects, water retention, water intoxication

I was diagnosed with CDI and panhypopituitarism after a car accident three years ago. I am currently taking hormone replacements and dDAVP 5 mcg in the morning and 10 mcg in the evening. This seems to be controlling my symptoms, however, I recently had surgery on my right leg and the surgeon found a number of water pockets in my leg. I have also had a considerable amount of weight gain. Could any of this be related to the CDI?

It is unlikely that your weight gain or the ‘water pockets’ observed by your surgeon are the results of your DI or the dDAVP used to treat it. Treatment with dDAVP sometimes results in excessive water retention, but when it does it is associated with a low serum sodium or other signs and symptoms of water intoxication. If you are concerned about this possibility, have your doctor check your serum sodium level.

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Question # 0280 EWv2n4 Keywords: fluid intake, infants

* How many cc/kg/day of fluids are needed to adequately hydrate an infant?

The amount of fluid intake needed to adequately hydrate an infant (or anyone, for that matter) cannot be specified exactly because it will vary markedly depending on factors such as the rate of urine output, loss from the gastrointestinal tract (i.e., vomiting or diarrhea), and normal evaporation of water from skin and lungs. The latter also varies markedly depending on temperature and activity. Generally speaking, if urine output is 50 cubic centimeters (cc) per kilogram body weight (kg) per day and gastrointestinal losses are nil, total fluid intake (including food) will need to be about 1.5 times as much or 75 cc/kg/d. However, as noted above, this can vary markedly depending on the situation. The good news is that it is not necessary to worry about fluid intake if the patient is conscious and can drink normally because the thirst mechanism will ensure that it is appropriate, no matter how much fluid output may vary. If the patient is unconscious or lacks a normal thirst mechanism, it is necessary to externally regulate fluid intake but this should always be done with the help of an expert in water metabolism and the effectiveness of the regulation should always be monitored closely by frequent measures of body weight and plasma sodium concentration.

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Question # 0002 FAQ Keywords: diet, dry skin, side effects

I am tired often and weak. My skin is very dry especially on my feet.

* Am I losing vitamins that I can replace?

* Is it common to have dry skin on one’s feet?

To our knowledge, DI does not result in loss of any vitamins or need for more vitamin supplementation than normal. If your fatigue is caused by your DI it may be because it interferes with your sleep at night. Depression can also cause fatigue and weakness. Dryness of the skin, especially on the palms and soles of feet, can be due to many things. Usually DI is not one of the causes although some patients do report such dryness that improves when their DI is controlled. Therefore, there could be a connection.

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Question # 0004 FAQ Keywords: inherited DI, genetic DI, familial DI

* Can DI be present at birth?

DI can be present at birth. When it is, it is almost always a genetic version of NDI, although there are genetic forms of CDI.

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Question # 0006 FAQ, 00451 EWv4n3 Keywords: prevalence, incidence

* How rare is DI?

DI is thought to be uncommon, but we really do not know the incidence or prevalence of DI in the population. It may be more common than we think because it is often goes unrecognized or undiagnosed.

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Question # 0007 FAQ Keywords: prevalence, nocturnal enuresis, incidence

* Is there any way to track the numbers of people with DI?

* How about the number of children/adults diagnosed with nocturnal enuresis?

* Or of those, how many may have DI?

No one knows the number of patients with DI in the United States or any other population. The number with enuresis has been estimated and shown to vary with age (from 25% of children at 5 years of age to 1% in adolescents and adults), but it is not known how many of those have DI. From various sources, it is estimated that the number of DI patients in the United States range between 40,000 to 80,000, but that calculation involves a lot of assumptions and could be way off.

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Question # 0009 FAQ, # 0331 EWv3n2 Keywords: diagnosis, diagnostic tests, treatment

When I was diagnosed, I was put into the hospital for a day of testing. As I recall, they tested the following: a glucose tolerance test while fasting and without water for about 20 hours (I felt fine, of all things, on the day they deprived me of water and food); complete blood and urine tests during that time period for various things, serum osmolalities, urine osmolalities, etc. They also measured the amount of urine that I produced, versus what I had drunk in a 24-hour period. Doctors concluded that I had a mild case of DI, if at all, and that is was intermittent, only surfacing in certain conditions. Their findings left me uncertain what to do next: wait until it got worse so I could go on medications, or hope for it to go away, which they said could happen. Either way, I am left wondering if I will become dehydrated and what to do about it. In the past year and a half, I have become dehydrated to the point that I had to get IV fluids twice.

DI is rarely episodic. Without treatment, the amount of urine passed each day is usually fairly constant, although it may be reduced from time to time by heavy smoking, or mild dehydration caused, for example, by physical exertion on a hot day. Dehydration so severe as to require intravenous fluids is also very rare in DI unless the thirst mechanism is also defective, or the patient is unable to obtain water to drink until thirst ceases. That is sufficient to prevent dehydration. If thirst does not occur in the presence of dehydration, something else is wrong, probably with the thirst mechanism. Going without water and food for 20 hours or more sometimes makes a patient with primary polydipsia feel better, but it invariably makes a patient with CDI or NDI feel much worse. However, primary polydipsia should not result in dehydration. DI should be treated if it results in intermittent dehydration or other troublesome symptoms such as thirst, getting up at night to urinate, etc. However, the type of treatment depends on which type of DI it is (central or nephrogenic).

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Question # 0010 FAQ Keywords: hypersalivation

* Is there any connection between DI and hypersalivation?

* What could cause extreme salivation?

There is no proven connection between DI and hypersalivation. However, they could be related because dry mouth is common in dehydrated normal people (when vasopressin is increased) and there is some evidence that vasopressin reduces water loss from other tissues besides the kidneys. Thus, a deficiency of vasopressin could result in increased formation of saliva as well as perspiration.

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Question # 0012 FAQ, 0329 EWv3n2, 0055FAQ Keywords: side effects, complications, altitude sickness

Since being diagnosed with DI, I have seem to have become very susceptible to altitude and now get altitude sickness. When I have to travel to Colorado and the surrounding mountains, it completely incapacitates me. It’s even noticeable on long international flights.

* Could some aspect of DI cause altitude sickness?

The association of your DI with intolerance to altitude is interesting because I have never heard of it before. I also cannot easily explain it. Perhaps it is a coincidence.

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Question # 0013 FAQ, 0061 FAQ Keywords: surgery

* Is there a need for extra fluids in patients with CDI during or after surgery?

There is no need for extra fluid during or after surgery if dDAVP is administered to prevent excessive water loss by the kidneys. In fact, extra fluid would be hazardous in this situation since the dDAVP would prevent normal excretion of the excess water. If dDAVP is not given during and after the surgery, extra fluid should be give to compensate for the loss. The amount that is required depends on the rate of urine output. It can be determined by keeping track of urine output and also the plasma sodium concentration.

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Question # 0014 FAQ, 0281 EWv2n4 Keywords:

* If needed to suction approximately four times per day, should extra fluids be added to compensate for fluid output?

Anything, such as suction, that increases fluid loss should be counteracted by equal increases in fluid intake.

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Question # 0016 FAQ, 0250 EWv2n3 Keywords: empty sella syndrome

* What is empty sella syndrome?

Empty sella syndrome refers to a condition in which the pituitary gland appears to be flattened within the sella turcica. The sella turcica is a bony pocket in the skull that holds the pituitary where it hangs down from the brain. Normally, it is completely filled by the pituitary gland. In empty sella, most of the space is taken up by the fluid that bathes the brain (called cerebrospinal fluid or CSF). Usually, empty sella is of no consequence because it occurs in a relatively large number of otherwise healthy people and does not result in any significant abnormality in pituitary function. Occasionally, however, it is associated with hormone abnormalities or other symptoms such as frequent headaches or visual disturbances. The cause of empty sella is unknown and probably varied. In some cases, it may reflect an earlier compression by a pituitary tumor that has since shrunken or disappeared altogether.

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Question # 0726 EWv7n2, 0089 FAQ Keywords: pregnancy, morning sickness

* Can excessive morning sickness cause a damaged thirst mechanism?

Hyperemesis gravidarum (excessive morning sickness) during pregnancy is not known to affect the thirst mechanism but it may lead to severe dehydration if the woman has untreated DI.

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Question # 0732 EWv7n2 Keywords: causes, microadenoma

I have a pituitary tumor that is a microadenoma. An MRI verified it as a micro not a macroadnoma. I have constant thirst and urination, but my primary doctor says it’s not likely I have CDI because I have a microadenoma, not a macro. She is doing the testing for it though.

* Can a microadenoma in the pituitary cause CDI or does it have to be a macro?

Microadenomas do not cause CDI. However, infiltrative diseases of the pituitary, which can mimic micros on MRI, can. Given your symptoms, you should have tests to determine whether you do, indeed, have CDI.

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Question # 0751 EWv7n3 Keywords: prognosis

* How will DI affect me as I get older?

* Will symptoms change?

DI usually does not change much with age but sometimes it gets better. Rarely, it stops altogether.

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Question # 0752 EWv7n3 Keywords: DI History, historical

One day I started to get interested in the life of my grandmother, because I recognized that no one spoke about her. I learned she was ill with DI, which developed because of a tumor. When she was 21 she had her first baby; at age 23 she left Vienna to live in Cairo, Egypt, where she had second baby where her symptoms were recognized. She returned to Vienna. I could not find any notices of hospitals (burnt during WWII) and I also cannot find how doctors used to help at this time (1907). She had two other children, was very sick her whole life, and at last killed herself. Vienna, Austria.

* How would DI have been treated in 1907?

DI was differentiated from diabetes mellitus (sugar diabetes) in 1787 and the genetic form of DI was discovered in 1841. Your great grandmother probably did not have the genetic form of DI and even if she did, you almost certainly did not inherit it because, if you did, you would have symptoms of DI by now. A treatment for DI was not discovered until 1913 and it was not widely used until many years later. Therefore, it is unlikely that your great grandmother ever received any treatment.

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Question # 0753 EWv7n3 Keywords: prevalence, incidence

I have been suffering from DI for seven years.

* How many of us are out there?

No one knows for sure how many people have DI because no systematic records of the disease are maintained.

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Question # 0754 EWv7n3 Keywords: narcolepsy

I looked up on vasopressin because I don’t know any narcoleptics that drink 20 liters of fluid a day. The hypothalamic cells that are destroyed in the case of narcolepsy sever the pathway between where vasopressin is made and where it is stored but does not destroy the tissue that makes vasopressin and animal studies severing that pathway do not cause CDI. Can you explain?

* Is there a connection between DI and narcolepsy?

* Can you explain how head damage causes DI?

Vasopressin is made and stored in the same large neurons of the posterior pituitary. The pituitary stalk through which these neurons pass on their way from the hypothalamus can be severed by trauma, surgery, or disease but when it is severed the neurons die. I know of no relation between DI and narcolepsy.

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Question # 0755 EWv7n3 Keywords: medical alert cards, medical alert bracelet

I have CDI and am taking dDAVP. I want to get a medical alert bracelet.

What should be worded on the medic alert bracelet?

The bracelet should say that you have central diabetes insipidus (without using abbreviations) and are taking dDAVP. If you lose consciousness, you should be taken to a hospital immediately for monitoring and management of your water balance.

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Question # 0757 EWv7n3 Keywords: prognosis, children with CDI, MRI

My 2½ year old daughter has CDI.

* What is the prognosis of a child this age with CDI?

* If the MRI showed the pituitary gland was lacking the hormone since birth, which DI is this?

When CDI (the type that is associated with absence of the pituitary bright spot and is treated with dDAVP nasal spray) begins in infancy or early childhood, it is often genetic. If so, one parent or other relative may or may not have CDI also. In any case a genetic analysis should be performed on the child unless, of course, some other cause such as a congenital malformation of the brain or a tumor has already been identified. CDI itself should not effect the child’s prognosis, but the disease that causes it may, depending on what it is.

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Question # 0763 EWv7n3 Keywords: headaches, side effects, complications

* What is the connection between headaches and DI?

Patients with DI can have headaches just like any other person. However, they can also occur for any of several special reasons related to the DI. If you have CDI as a result of a brain tumor, pressure from a tumor or other disease affecting the part of the brain that normally makes antidiuretic hormone (vasopressin) could cause your headaches.

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Question # 0550 EWv5n3 Keywords: chlorpropamide, chlorathiazide, cost, fixed income, side effects

I have CDI, for which I’m taking chlorpropamide (250 mg two times a day) and chlorathiazide (250 mg two times a day). DDAVP doesn’t appear to work very well for a lot of people. And these medications are much cheaper and have fewer side effects.

* Why aren’t more people using chlorpropamide and chlorathiazide?

* Are there any long-term side effects?

Many patients with CDI take dDAVP instead of chlorpropamide because their doctors do not know how effective the latter can be. As you know, chlorpropamide can also lower blood sugar. Usually this does not have any consequences except for a slight increase in appetite, sometimes weight gain, and occasionally irritability. However, the low blood sugar can be more severe if the patient goes on a strict diet or engages in heavy physical exercise. The drug should not be taken during pregnancy since we do not know if it affects the fetus. As far as we know, the chlorpropamide has no significant long-term side effects, and it is a good deal less expensive than dDAVP I would recommend it to patients who do not respond well or cannot afford dDAVP.

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Question # 0551 EWv5n3, 0027 FAQ Keywords: cure, psychological changes, emotional, emotions, dosage, DDAVP, low body weight, adrenal insufficiency, hypothyroidism

I’m writing about a patient who is very skinny. Her height is 1.70 m and weight is 42 kg. She has low blood pressure and sometimes feels dizzy. Before she developed the disease, there was a period of time when she was very moody, upset, and angry.

* Could these (emotional disturbances) be the causes of the disease?

The patient has never had the antidiuretic hormone in her blood or urine measured (the test if not available in her city.) But after treatment with desmopressin, her symptoms were gone.

* Based on this information, can she be diagnosed with CDI?

* Is CDI curable?

The first 6 months after the disease developed, she had to take 0.3 mg/day to make herself comfortable. Now she only takes 0.15 mg/day, and she is fine (se has been on this dosage for a year and a half.)

* Why could she reduce her dosage like that? Does that mean her body went through some changes?

* Is it possible she can further reduce the dosage later on and finally stop taking the medication?

You have asked three excellent and very important questions: It is very, unlikely that her angry mood or other personality changes caused her DI. It is much more likely that these personality changes and some of the other symptoms you mention (low blood pressure and dizziness) are due to another disorder (secondary adrenal insufficiency) that often results from the same disease that causes CDI. If dDAVP completely corrected her DI without producing water intoxication or other problems, she almost certainly has CDI and does not need the hormone measured to confirm the diagnosis. Unfortunately, CDI can be controlled but not cured. There are several reasons why she may have been able to reduce her dose of dDAVP, but one of them is she has also developed adrenal insufficiency (as noted above) or hypothyroidism, which can also accompany CDI in some patients. Both of these other diseases are quite dangerous but can be treated easily if she has them. She should be tested for adrenal insufficiency and hypothyroidism and started on treatment as soon as possible if they are present. She should also have an MRI of the brain looking for the cause of the pituitary damage that could be responsible for all of these conditions.

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Question # 0555 EWv5n3 Keywords: cure, recovery

MY son has CDI. The doctor said they cannot find the pituitary gland stem, and they believe it has been severed (after a fall), which would cause my son’s CDI.

* Could the stem (pituitary stalk) regrow?

* What research is being done on this?

If your son has CDI due to a severance of his pituitary stalk, it is unlikely the neurons will regrow. He will probably have DI for the rest of his fife. If it does get better, it is not necessarily a good sign because it usually indicates the development of another problem (such as adrenal insufficiency), which “masks” the DI but carries other risks that must be attended to. When DI starts during childhood and is not associated with any overt disease in the pituitary hypothalamic area (i.e., the MRI is normal except for absence of the posterior pituitary bright spot), the possibility, of a genetic cause should be considered, even if there is a history of head trauma. Check with relatives, especially on his mother’s side of the family, to see if any of them have signs of CDI.

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Question # 0652 EWv6n3 Keywords: dipsogenic DI, polydipsia, children with dipsogenic DI

My 18-month-old son has been diagnosed with dipsogenic DI. We have been advised to try behavioral therapy, as there are no available effective drug therapies at this rime for pediatric dipsogenic DI.

* Do you have an experience with behavior therapy for dipsogenic DI in children?

I have no experience with behavioral therapy for dipsogenic DI, but am dubious that it would accomplish much, at least in a child so young. I also have some concerns about the diagnosis and would advise careful review of the test results to be sure that partial CDI has been thoroughly excluded. The development of hyponatremia during dDAVP therapy essentially rules out NDI and is in favor of some form of primary polydipsia. However, it does not prove the latter diagnosis in infants or young children, because their diet contains more water.

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Question # 0655 EWv6n3 Keywords: diet, cure, treatment

* Is there any nutrition therapy that could help with DI?

* Can CDI be cured or could it go away?

There is no nutritional therapy that is known to help CDI, although a low-sodium diet (30-50 mg sodium/day for children; 500-600 mg sodium/day for adults) will reduce the volume of urine produced. There is no known cure for CDI, and it sometimes goes away, but only in a few patients when they get older (over 40 years).

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Question # 0656 EWv6n3 Keywords: medical alert bracelet, medical alert card

I am 14 years old and have CDI.

* Is it necessary to have a medical alert bracelet or necklace?

It would be a good idea to have a medical alert bracelet or card so that any doctor who treats you for an emergency will know that you require special treatment for the DI. For information about obtaining Medic Alert cards, bracelets, or necklaces, contact Medic Alert (a nonprofit organization), 2323 Colorado Ave., Turlock, CA 95382; 800-432-5378; www.medicalert.org. If you have NDI, medical alert cards are also available, free, from the Nephrogenic Diabetes Insipidus Foundation by registering at its Web site, www.ndif.org.

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Question # 0657 EWv6n3 Keywords: prognosis, genetic

I am 14 years old and have CDI.

* I was wondering if DI can go from partial to full.

CDI (the type treated with dDAVP) can go from partial to full particularly in patients with the inherited (genetic) form. You are in the correct age group to have the inherited form and may want to have a genetic analysis performed even if you do not know of any other family members who also have the disorder.

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Question # 0658 EWv6n3 Keywords: side effects, dehydration, hyponatremia, water intoxication

* I have constant leg cramps. Is that caused by dehydration?

Legs cramps are probably not a sign of dehydration. They are more likely due to over-hydration, which is also a cause of low serum sodium. Again, therefore, I would suggest that your serum sodium (and potassium) be measured while you are having the leg cramps.

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Question # 0659 EWv6n3 Keywords: recovery, adrenal insufficiency

I had CDI for approximately 13 months and had been using dDAVP My symptoms started 9 weeks after my surgery for a pituitary tumor. I did get dDAVP in the hospital but did not need it when I came home. Recently, I became very sick with both vomiting and diarrhea, but I stopped urinating so I did not take my dDAVP that night because I realized that I was already dehydrated. The next night I also did nor take it, and I noticed chat my urine was dark yellow in color. It has been over a month now and I am hoping that it’s gone. I still at times have an urgency and still urinate about eight times a day, but the volume has decreased and I do sleep most nights about 5 or 6 hours before I have to go to the bathroom.

* Can DI go away in this manner?

Once established for as long as 13 months, CDI rarely goes away unless other problems develop. One such problem is adrenal insufficiency. It can also result from damage to the pituitary, can cause episodes of nausea and vomiting, and can mask the signs of DI. If you have not already been evaluated and treated for adrenal insufficiency, the possibility should be investigated by your doctor as soon as possible, because it is a serious, even life-threatening condition. The other problem that can make it appear that the DI has stopped is damage to the thirst mechanism with hypernatremic dehydration. Your doctor can check for this by measuring your serum sodium.

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Question # 0627 EWv6n2 Keywords: prognosis, developmental delays, mental disability, children wth CDI

We adopted a baby, who has CDI.

* Will this baby suffer other pituitary hormone deficiencies?

* Is CDI a life-long disorder?

* Will our baby suffer developmental delays or physical or mental disabilities?

If your baby has CDI, he will probably need treatment for the rest of his life. Sometimes these kinds of DI remit, get better, or stop around the age of 40 to 50 years, but that occurs in only about 10% to 20% of patients. The answers to your other questions depend on the cause of his CDI. If it is genetic, he will not have any other abnormalities. However, if it is due to a congenital malformation or another form of more general brain injury, he may have defects in other pituitary or brain functions. It would be important to ask the doctors who took care of him if they know the cause of his CDI, or if not, whether there are any other members of his biologic family who have signs or symptoms of DI.

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Question # 0630 EWv6n2 Keywords: anorexia, bulimia, diuretic abuse, low body weight

I am a 32 year old who has suffers severe anorexia / bulimia with heavy laxative and diuretic abuse. It has been 10 years since this behavior, but there seems to be many malfunctions beginning to surface. I was recently diagnosed with hypothyroidism. I still experience constant thirst and more than frequent stops to the restroom. I try to restrict my fluid intake and end up feeling tired and thirsty and begin to get a headache. I also have severe night sweats. All female hormone levels are normal. Do I have DI? How do I approach my endocrinologist about this area of concern? How do I help myself until I can see my doctor?

It is possible that you have some type of DI, since it is known to be a complication of anorexia/bulimia syndrome. Usually it gradually improves after the anorexia/ bulimia stops and weight returns to normal. However, that is not always the case. The easiest way to tell if you have some type of DI is to collect a 24-hour urine sample and measure it for volume, osmolality, and creatinine. If It Is consistent with DI (high volume, low osmolality, and normal creatinine), your endocrinologist will have to do some additional tests to determine which type of DI you have. In your case, the tests may be particularly difficult to interpret and may require the intervention of a specialist. Until these questions are answered, the only thing you should do is drink as much as you need to satisfy your thirst. You should not start any antidiuretic therapy unless and until DI has been diagnosed.

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Question # 0631 EWv6n2 Keywords: causes, prevalence, idiopathic CDI

I was diagnosed with DI when I was 10 years old. I was in Sick Children’s hospital and they never found a cause for it.

* Do some people just develop it out of the blue like that?

* Is it very common (in the diabetes insipidus world)?

It is relatively common for CDI to start for no apparent reason. In fact, such “idiopathic” forms happen about 50% of the time. When idiopathic CDI begins in childhood, there is an increased chance that it is genetic. When it is genetic, one parent (and possibly other relatives) usually has DI also. However, that is not always the case, and if you want to find out for sure (because of concern about passing DI on to your children) you can have an analysis of your vasopressin-neurophysin gene.

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Question # 0577 EWv5n4 Keywords: osmolality, children with DI

* What is the normal urine osmolality for a 3-year-old child?

* Is there a range in which it is considered normal?

There is no urine osmolality value that is normal for all circumstances. It depends on a variety of factors, such as fluid intake and state of hydration, and varies widely throughout the day. Generally, however, it should be in the range 300 to 900 mosmoles/kg if the child is eating and drinking normally and is not dehydrated or overhydrated (due, for example, to IV fluids). However, a physician who understands water physiology and the exact condition of the child when the sample was collected could give a more definitive answer.

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Question # 0579 EWv5n4 Keywords: growth hormone, children with CDI

We discovered our daughter has CDI more than a year ago. She is 7 1/2years old now. She is using dDAVP spray once at bedtime for more than a year. The dDAVP spray can hold her water intake to normal and she doesn’t urinate as much as before. The big concern for me is her growth hormone, She hasn’t grown any taller compared with other kids -- even my younger son is taller than her now. She only grew one inch and a quarter for the past one and a half year. I try to give her calcium-rich foods such as milk, and calcium vitamins, but it doesn’t help at all.

* Do you think taking a growth hormone medication will help my child?

Your daughter may have a growth hormone deficiency in addition to CDI. This can result from a variety of congenital malformations or acquired diseases of the pituitary hypothalamus that are often evident on MRI of the brain. An MRI should be done if it has not been already. She also should have tests of growth hormone and other pituitary hormones.

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Question # 0580 EWv5n4 Keywords: CDI after surgery, water intoxication

* I developed CDI seven weeks after surgery. After starting dDAVP, I began to experience the symptoms of water intoxication. Is this common?

It is not uncommon to develop CDI after surgery for a pituitary tumor. Usually, however, it starts sooner than 7 weeks and is not associated with a tendency to develop water intoxication (low serum sodium) on dDAVP therapy. These two discrepancies make me wonder if there was some damage to the part of your thirst mechanism, which is located in the hypothalamus just above the pituitary. If so, it could result in abnormal excessive thirst and fluid intake which either mimics CDI or complicates its treatment with dDAVP I would suggest that you begin to strictly follow the rule of drinking only when you are truly thirsty and then try increasing your dose of dDAVP until it completely controls your DI. If this again results in the development of water intoxication (low serum sodium), you should be further evaluated by a specialist to determine the true cause of your DI and design the most appropriate therapy.

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Question # 0583 EWv5n4 Keywords: water intoxication, infancy, infants with CDI, children with CDI

There is no information about very young children or neonates and CDI. It is so difficult to treat my patient owing a lack of information. My patient has suffered from GBS meningitis. In infancy, her thirst mechanism was not fully developed and water pool in body is very low so her sodium levels have been up and down. It is very difficult to control her sodium level.

* Please recommend the management of infancy with CDI.

In young infants, treating CDI can be very difficult because they must drink more water than adults and the dDAVP treatment prevents them from excreting the excess water. Therefore, they are much more likely to develop water intoxication (hyponatremia) when given doses of dDAVP sufficient to completely prevent DI. I would recommend that you try three things: 1) provide a formula with the smallest amount of solute free water possible, 2) reduce the does of dDAVP until urine output roughly equals the daily intake of formula, and 3) allow the child to drink enough pure water (not juice or milk) to replace her insensible losses (10 to 30 ml/kg body weight depending on temperature and activity).

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Question # 0677 EWv6n2 Keywords: treatment

* If I have CDI or NDI and the symptoms doesn’t bother me, why should I take treatment?

The principle reason is to reduce the risk of severe dehydration and provide greater freedom to participate in activities in which it is difficult, if not impossible, to drink and urinate frequently.

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Question # 0777 EWv7n4 Keywords: CDI after surgery, brain damage, causes, treatment

My friend, aged 55, recently had a cystic pituitary tumor removed. In the following months, she has deteriorated, with symptoms such as signs of brain damage, thirst, very sleepy, incoherent speech, incontinent, and eyes not functioning properly. She is still in the hospital after 8 weeks and the medical staff have not given a firm diagnosis. I am very worried.

* Can CDI be caused by surgery for a pituitary tumor?

* If so, what treatment is needed?

Some of the symptoms, such as thirst and incontinence, may be due to DI. If so, it is probably CDI and could be managed quite easily with dDAVP. It is also possible, though much less likely, that these symptoms are due to abnormal thirst caused by the tumor or the surgery. If so, dDAVP should not be given since it will induce water intoxication. Therefore, the type of DI, and whether she in fact has DI, should be determined before treatment is started.

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Question # 0251 EWv2n3 Keywords: water intoxication

* What is water intoxication?

Water intoxication is a term used to describe a constellation of symptoms and laboratory abnormalities that result from an accumulation of too much water in the body. Depending on how much and how fast water accumulates, the symptoms can be mild (headache, fatigue, dizziness, loss of appetite) or severe (confusion, coma, seizures). Since these symptoms also occur in other disorders, the diagnosis of water intoxication requires a laboratory test showing that the plasma sodium concentration has been “diluted” be the normal range. Water intoxication occurs whenever water is put into the body (by drinking or intravenous infusion) faster than the kidneys can excrete it (usually because of kidney failure or the act of vasopressin, the antidiuretic hormone). This can occur in a variety of situations. It is common, for example, in patients with dipsogenic DI (a form of DI due to an abnormality in the thirst mechanism) who are treated with dDAVP in the mistaken belief that they have CDI (a form of CDI due to a deficiency of the antidiuretic hormone, vasopressin). The treatment of water intoxication varies depending on the cause and the severity but almost always includes cessation of fluid intake until plasma sodium concentration returns to normal.

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Question # 0425 EWv4n2 Keywords: prevalence, nocturnal enuresis, incidence

* How many people have DI?

* How many children/adults are diagnosed with nocturnal enuresis?

* Of those, how many may have DI?

No one knows the number of patients with DI in the United States or any other population. The number with enuresis has been estimated and shown to vary with age (from 25% of children at 5 years of age to 1% in adolescents and adults) but it is not known how many of those have DI. From various sources, it is estimated that the number of people with DI in the United States range between 40,000 to 80,000, but that calculation involves a lot of assumptions and could be way off.

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Question # 0431 EWv4n2 Keywords: polydipsia, dipsogenic DI

* What is the difference between compulsive polydipsia and psychogenic polydipsia?

Patients with psychogenic polydipsia have severe psychoses such as schizophrenia. Some physicians use the term compulsive polydipsia to describe patients who they believe have primary polydipsia due to neurosis or some other less severe form of mental illness. However, many of these patients also complain of thirst and are no likelier than the rest of us to be suffering from a mental disability. Therefore, I believe they also have a thirst disorder (dipsogenic DI). I do not like or use the term compulsive polydipsia.

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Question # 0032 FAQ Keywords: growth hormone, Somatomedin C, DDAVP, prognosis

We ran a growth hormone test on our daughter and the result was a measure of 100, per her doctor, the normal teen is between 74 to 474. Should we ask her doctor to have the growth hormone treated now or should be wait for a few years? Also, he had an MRI in 9/99 and the growth around her pituitary stalk measured 3.2 mm compared to a the recent measurement of 2.0 mm. It has shrunk quite a bit but she is still using the same amount of dDAVP. Will the CDI go away and will her need for dDAVP decrease?

The test result that you refer to was probably Somatomedin C (or IGF-1, as it is also called). It is normal and indicates that she does not need growth hormone treatment although it may still increase her growth. Even if the thickening of her pituitary stalk decreases, it is unlikely that her CDI will improve since the neurosecretory cells that normally make vasopressin do not regrow when they are destroyed. However, the reduction in thickening may prevent or improve other abnormalities in anterior pituitary function.

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Question # 0034 FAQ Keywords: head injury, causes

* Could my head injury have affected my pituitary gland and caused CDI?

It is known that head trauma sometimes causes CDI or the problems in the pituitary or brain.

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Question # 0035 FAQ Keywords: treatment, alternative treatment, medications, chlorpropamide

Is there other treatment or medication? I was told that Tegretol is used to treat seizure disorder and CDI.

Yes, there are other medications that work quite well in CDI. One is Tegretol. Another is chlorpropamide. Both can be taken by mouth and may have side effects but they are usually not serious.

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Question # 0036 FAQ Keywords: perspiration, side effects, hyperhidrosis

* Does DI cause excessive perspiration?

CDI may result in increased loss of water from skin or lungs (so called insensible loss) but it does not manifest as an appreciable increase in perspiration. Moreover, it appears to be controlled completely by dDAVP. If hyperhidrosis (increased perspiration) is present, it is probably due to a separate problem.

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Last Updated January 2007